In this episode, Roy and Catherine take on resilience in uncertain times and how to recover. Catherine starts by questioning the premise, pointing out that life itself is inherently uncertain since she’s an organic being, not a machine, and that when people talk about “uncertain times” they usually mean something external, like not knowing when a war will end. Her view is that the goal isn’t to recover from uncertainty, it’s to live inside it fully and feel it, because she believes uncertainty exists to help us grow, and chasing certainty misses the point. She ties this to her own experience during the UK’s roughly three-year Covid lockdown period, when she felt constantly drained by the collective energy of it and had to adapt by limiting herself to four or five hours of work a day and sleeping nine or ten hours a night just to stay functional, rather than sliding into resentment, fear and panic. For her, resilience means tuning into both the meaning of the uncertainty and what her body actually needs, rest, more protein, whatever it is, rather than reaching for a single fixed answer. Roy connects this to his own experience losing everything financially and rebuilding from a place of sovereignty, and to the roughly four years of lockdowns, during which he refused to comply, started independently researching PCR test sales data going back to 2017, and dug into what was being injected, while staying on good terms with friends who believed the opposite, since he never saw it as worth ending relationships over differing belief systems. He applies the same approach to business shocks, like losing ad platform access in Europe overnight, the lesson being to adjust fast without self-pity, stay calm instead of panicking, since panic (which he sees media and official messaging as pushing) clouds thinking, and basic tools like breathing and walking are what actually let you recover from whatever curveball comes next.
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