In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore the relationships that shape who we become. Roy talks about staying close to his mother as a daily sounding board — valued more for her intuition and people-sense than for business advice — and about surrounding himself with people he trusts who are genuinely trying to make things better for others. He shares his approach to friendship as something built deliberately, not left to chance: picking up the phone instead of waiting to be needed, and choosing a real conversation over a quick Facebook birthday comment. Catherine builds on this with a broader idea — that any relationship can help us grow if we're willing to grow, even a difficult one, because it can teach us our own trigger points and shadow. But it's authenticity specifically — being around people who are genuinely themselves, without pretense — that she finds most nourishing, since it encourages her to become more real too. She closes with a reflection on podcast guests: how every real, open conversation on the show helps her grow, and that if you've ever been a guest on someone's show, you've likely helped them grow more than you realize.

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